Lord Griffiths, an ordained Minister in the Methodist Church and past president of Conference has asked for permission from Conference to receive “Conditional Ordination” in the Church of England. Permission has not been given for this to take place and I believe rightly so. For the Church of England to require that Methodist Ministers receive Ordination by an Anglican Bishop is clearly stating that Methodist Ordination is not sufficient or complete in itself and therefore Methodist Ministers must be considered inadequate or inferior. I consider this to be an insult to our clergy and a clear statement that we are not considered equal partners in the Methodist Anglican Covenant. I have never heard it suggested that an Anglican Vicar or Priest would have to undergo Ordination in the Methodist Church before being allowed to officiate. Perhaps we should insist on this and see how well that is received. Perhaps not so well known is that the Anglicans are in dialogue with the Catholic Church with a view to eventual uniting of the denominations. Can we expect therefore that our Ministers will then have to undergo another Ordination before becoming Catholic Priests. I don’t blame the Anglicans for holding fast to what they believe. It is just a pity that we couldn’t do the same. That might just involve telling them where to go and that wouldn’t be “PC”. But isn’t that just what John Wesley did?
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The other day I heard a song on the radio which I noticed kept mentioning Jesus. Not being someone who tends to follow the charts and which particular song is “in” I didn’t know what or who it was. I did try emailing the radio station in question thinking they would be able to tell me what it was but I heard nothing so I forgot about it.
Then today I caught the repeat of X Factor, not something I tend to watch these days but there was Robbie Williams singing his new song – the same song I heard on the radio. I then thought I would look up the lyrics on the internet and found many different comments from people who were trying to work out what Robbie was trying to say to people through his music. The lyrics are as follows:
God gave me the sunshine,
Then showed me my lifeline
I was told it was all mine,
Then I got laid on a ley line
What a day, what a day,
And your Jesus really died for me
Then Jesus really tried for meUK and entropy,
I feel like its ****in’ (beeped out) me
Wanna feed off the energy,
Love living like a deity
What a day, one day,
And your Jesus really died for me
I guess Jesus really tried for meBodies in the Bodhi tree,
Bodies making chemistry
Bodies on my family,
Bodies in the way of me
Bodies in the cemetery,
And that’s the way it’s gonna beAll we’ve ever wanted
Is to look good naked
Hope that someone can take it
God save me rejection
From my reflection,
I want perfectionPraying for the rapture,
‘Cause it’s stranger getting stranger
And everything’s contagious
It’s the modern middle ages
All day every day
And if Jesus really died for me
Then Jesus really tried for meBodies in the Bodhi tree,
Bodies making chemistry
Bodies on my family,
Bodies in the way of me
Bodies in the cemetery,
And that’s the way it’s gonna beAll we’ve ever wanted
Is to look good naked
Hope that someone can take it
God save me rejection
From my reflection,
I want perfectionBodies in the Bodhi tree,
Bodies making chemistry
Bodies on my family,
Bodies in the way of me
Bodies in the cemetery,
Bodies in the bodhi tree,
Bodies making chemistry
Bodies on my family,
Bodies in the way of me
Bodies in the cemetery,
And that’s the way it’s gonna beAll we’ve ever wanted
Is to look good naked
Hope that someone can take it
So God save me rejection
From my reflection,
I want perfectionJesus didn’t die for you, what do you want?
(I want perfection)
Jesus didn’t die for you, what are you on?
Oh Lord
(Jesus really died for you) Ohh
(Jesus really died for you)
(Jesus really died for you) Ohh
You can also listen to the song
I’m really not sure whether Robbie is for or against Christianity, or if it means anything to him but one thing I do know is that this song has certainly got people talking and thinking about whether Jesus did die for them.
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Brown Owl has made a pronouncement in reply to “The plot thickens” to the effect that since none of the Brownies are interested in what gender Pebbles is – (and no-one else seems to be too interested either!) then we are trying to answer a question which no-one has asked. Probably. if asked, the Brownies would say “why does it matter” and one cannot argue with that sentiment. Therefore – from henceforth – Pebbles is neutral.
Tawny Owl and I intend to go to Southport tomorrow night to watch the fireworks. An hour and a half of top class fireworks for a fiver sounds like a good deal to me. Soon we will be having our annual bonfire down at the local farm. It has never been advertised as a public event and started over forty years ago when the present farm owner and his sister were children. Friends from the Church went along and a good time was had by all. It has continued, without a break, every year since then and is a brilliant evening with no alcohol, no rowdies or hooligans, no throwing of fireworks, good food and a good chat. It is a lovely evening which is family friendly and we have some brilliant fireworks and a huge bonfire, all free.
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The Brownies managed to raise enough money to sponsor some animals for 12 months. As part of the package we were given 3 soft toys of the 3 animals we sponsored. This means we now have 4 creatures that can go home with 4 Brownies who have earned them. As leaders, myself, Brown Owl and Mr Owl (otherwise known as the Church Mouse) had a discussion about what sex we thought they were and whether we should have the discussion with the Brownies. In the end we decided that maybe it was best not to go down that route and leave it to the imagination of each individual girl. Did we do the right thing? Who knows….only time will tell!
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Went to the Salvation Army last night to hear the Seventh Day Adventists worshiping and singing. Does that make me ecumenical. I think so. It is certainly more inspiring than the Methodist Anglican covenant, which has done nothing so far.
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This is certainly going to be a big issue over the coming weeks. Pebbles is wearing what looks like Brownie uniform but no trousers! If Pebbles is really a Brownie then why has it not been told to wear the correct uniform at all times. On the other hand, as I believe, Pebbles is not a Brownie then he must be a unit helper, in which case he should be wearing a blue top, not a yellow one. I suspect that he is being subjected to forced feminization by Brown Owl which, were it to be the case would be a most serious state of affairs. However, in Brown Owls defence all the parents who have had Pebbles residing in their homes are complicit in this abuse, unless Pebbles is allowed to wear trousers when in a Brownie’s home. This is something which might require further investigation.
There is one other possibility which might avoid all this unpleasant and disagreeable discussion. That is that there is an official status of “Mascot” which may, under the sex discrimination act, not compel bears to disclose their gender.

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This old Church Mouse hasn’t had much to say about the view from the pew recently. Some exciting things are happening, or at least they will be exciting if they happen. Rather like the Tithebarn Project in Preston we are in danger of getting all our kicks from talking about what we could do but never actually doing anything. I do, on this occasion, think that there is a real moving of the Spirit. Of necessity, there will be changes in the year 2010 because some of our clergy are moving away. This and other factors, like the ever expanding Buckshaw Village between us and Chorley have made us consider how we need to change to meet the challenges which are before us. Various people in both South Ribble and Preston are having a similar vision of new forms of outreach to the communities which we serve. Already, at New Longton we are launching new ventures such as the mother and toddler group which has made a very encouraging start. “Sticky Weeds”, the coffee and gift shop which has opened next door has started a knit and natter morning on a Monday which attracts more than was expected. The days when the Church was the centre of Village life have gone but the various problems which people face and the help and resources which the people who make up the Church can offer are still there. We just need to find ways of linking up the two. God is moving in South Ribble – watch out – He might be coming to get you.
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I may have mentioned this before but when I went away on holiday to North Berwick, which is close to Edinburgh, I was given Pebbles to look after. Who or what is Pebbles? you might ask. Well this takes us back to the Brownies again. Pebbles is a little well behaved bear which is given to a little well behaved brownie each week to take home and bring it back the following week having written up Pebbles diary explaining what Pebbles has done during the week. This is done with varying degrees of enthusiasm. Sometimes one can imagine that poor Pebbles might just have sat on a shelf for the week. Anyway – off we went with Pebbles in tow. Naturally we wanted to make sure that Pebbles had plenty to talk about on his return. I say “his” although it is by no means certain whether Pebbles is male or female. Perhaps I should rephrase that - I am uncertain whether Pebbles is male or female - I am quite sure that everyone else knows.
I spent the week prancing around with Pebbles perched on my camera case or on my shoulder and got about as many funny looks as I did when I was wearing my Brownie uniform with the frilly bits. At least it allowed me to do some daft things and get away with it, like perching Pebbles on the front seat of someones precious motorbike, without asking permission. I could see these big hairy bikers looking through the window in amazement so I didn’t hang about too long. Then we walked into a nice tea shop and plonked Pebbles on top of a nice cake which was on the counter. The cake had a cover on it, of course! Tawny Owl drew the line at taking Pebbles on a speed boat. The thought of what would happen if we had to come back and report to the Brownies that Pebbles had been lost at sea doesn’t ‘bear’ thinking about. When we arrived home Tawny Owl put together a lovely booklet with a story and pictures of Pebbles and printed a copy for each Brownie.

Talking to a pigeon.

Sitting on the landing gear of Concord.

Riding on a tortoise.
This is just a small selection of the utterly improbably things which I found myself involved in. Secretly though, I quite enjoyed it and I have since had some feedback from one of the parents who has really enjoyed the diary on the pretence of reading it to her daughter.
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It is hard to believe that Christmas is just around the corner. I am definitely one of those people who think that having Christmas cards in shops in September is far too early. Having said that though I am currently working on the Christmas card which is delivered to all the houses in our village. The aim is that they are all posted by the first weekend in December which gives me just about 2 months to get everything ready.
We usually send a Christmas card which contains information about all the Christmas activities and services, a letter from the Minister, and then last year we included an invitation to the lunch club. This year we are also hoping to advertise the holiday bible club for 2010 and possibly our new parent and toddler group, our youth club and adult youth club. This means there is still a lot to do and prepare hence the early start. Then of course there are posters to do.
This year we also hoping to do an advent calendar outside church which will begin by looking like the Christmas card. We haven’t quite decided whether to go with the usual 24 doors/25 doors or whether to have 1 every couple of days. Then we also need to think about what could go in the windows.
Any thoughts or suggestions are welcome!
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