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Lord Griffiths, an ordained Minister in the Methodist Church and past president of Conference has asked for permission from Conference to receive “Conditional Ordination” in the Church of England. Permission has not been given for this to take place and I believe rightly so.  For the Church of England to require that Methodist Ministers receive Ordination by an Anglican Bishop is clearly stating that Methodist Ordination is not sufficient or complete in itself and therefore Methodist Ministers must be considered inadequate or inferior.  I consider this to be an insult to our clergy and a clear statement that we are not considered equal partners in the Methodist Anglican Covenant.  I have never heard it suggested that an Anglican Vicar or Priest would have to undergo Ordination in the Methodist Church before being allowed to officiate.  Perhaps we should insist on this and see how well that is received.  Perhaps not so well known is that the Anglicans are in dialogue with the Catholic Church with a view to eventual uniting of the denominations.  Can we expect therefore that our Ministers will then have to undergo another Ordination before becoming  Catholic Priests.  I don’t blame the Anglicans for holding fast to what they believe.  It is just a pity that we couldn’t do the same.  That might just involve telling them where to go and that wouldn’t be “PC”.  But isn’t that just what John Wesley did?

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The other day I heard a song on the radio which I noticed kept mentioning Jesus.  Not being someone who tends to follow the charts and which particular song is “in” I didn’t know what or who it was.  I did try emailing the radio station in question thinking they would be able to tell me what it was but I heard nothing so I forgot about it.

Then today I caught the repeat of X Factor, not something I tend to watch these days but there was Robbie Williams singing his new song – the same song I heard on the radio.  I then thought I would look up the lyrics on the internet and found many different comments from people who were trying to work out what Robbie was trying to say to people through his music.  The lyrics are as follows:

God gave me the sunshine,
Then showed me my lifeline
I was told it was all mine,
Then I got laid on a ley line
What a day, what a day,
And your Jesus really died for me
Then Jesus really tried for me

UK and entropy,
I feel like its ****in’ (beeped out) me
Wanna feed off the energy,
Love living like a deity
What a day, one day,
And your Jesus really died for me
I guess Jesus really tried for me

Bodies in the Bodhi tree,
Bodies making chemistry
Bodies on my family,
Bodies in the way of me
Bodies in the cemetery,
And that’s the way it’s gonna be

All we’ve ever wanted
Is to look good naked
Hope that someone can take it
God save me rejection
From my reflection,
I want perfection

Praying for the rapture,
‘Cause it’s stranger getting stranger
And everything’s contagious
It’s the modern middle ages
All day every day
And if Jesus really died for me
Then Jesus really tried for me

Bodies in the Bodhi tree,
Bodies making chemistry
Bodies on my family,
Bodies in the way of me
Bodies in the cemetery,
And that’s the way it’s gonna be

All we’ve ever wanted
Is to look good naked
Hope that someone can take it
God save me rejection
From my reflection,
I want perfection

Bodies in the Bodhi tree,
Bodies making chemistry
Bodies on my family,
Bodies in the way of me
Bodies in the cemetery,
Bodies in the bodhi tree,
Bodies making chemistry
Bodies on my family,
Bodies in the way of me
Bodies in the cemetery,
And that’s the way it’s gonna be

All we’ve ever wanted
Is to look good naked
Hope that someone can take it
So God save me rejection
From my reflection,
I want perfection

Jesus didn’t die for you, what do you want?
(I want perfection)
Jesus didn’t die for you, what are you on?
Oh Lord
(Jesus really died for you) Ohh
(Jesus really died for you)
(Jesus really died for you) Ohh

You can also listen to the song

I’m really not sure whether Robbie is for or against Christianity, or if it means anything to him but one thing I do know is that this song has certainly  got people talking and thinking about whether Jesus did die for them.

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Brown Owl has made a pronouncement in reply to “The plot thickens” to the effect that since none of the Brownies are interested in what gender Pebbles is – (and no-one else seems to be too interested either!) then we are trying to answer a question which no-one has asked.  Probably. if asked, the Brownies would say “why does it matter” and one cannot argue with that sentiment.  Therefore – from henceforth – Pebbles is neutral.

Tawny Owl and I intend to go to Southport tomorrow night to watch the fireworks. An hour and a half of top class fireworks for a fiver sounds like a good deal to me.  Soon we will be having our annual bonfire down at the local farm.  It has never been advertised as a public event and started over forty years ago when the present farm owner and his sister were children.  Friends from the Church went along and a good time was had by all.  It has continued, without a break, every year since then and is a brilliant evening with no alcohol, no rowdies or hooligans, no throwing of fireworks, good food and a good chat.  It is a lovely evening which is family friendly and we have some brilliant fireworks and a huge bonfire, all free.

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The Brownies managed to raise enough money to sponsor some animals for 12 months.  As part of the package we were given 3 soft toys of the 3 animals we sponsored.  This means we now have 4 creatures that can go home with 4 Brownies who have earned them.  As leaders, myself, Brown Owl and Mr Owl (otherwise known as the Church Mouse) had a discussion about what sex we thought they were and whether we should have the discussion with the Brownies.  In the end we decided that maybe it was best not to go down that route and leave it to the imagination of each individual girl.  Did we do the right thing?  Who knows….only time will tell!

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Went to the Salvation Army last night to hear the Seventh Day Adventists worshiping and singing.  Does that make me ecumenical. I think so. It is certainly more inspiring than the Methodist  Anglican covenant, which has done nothing so far.

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